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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 5, 2013 6:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This is a Grateful Dead show please shut the ---- up!

I shudder to think of the amount of vid that would be of me having a not so good day if I was a public figure.

My idea of going to hear some live music is exactly that. If I want to play with electronics or be social with folks I have other opportunities. I don't understand going to listen to a band and drinking wine in the front row and goshing with my friends as happened at the Furthur shows I watched during the couch tour in January or what I have seen at shows in general. I know that too much is just enough, but isn't there quickly a point a diminishing returns to be multitasking so at a show? I also get that there are exceptions, but in general what is so critical that it can not wait an hour or two? I fear that the genie is fully out of the bottle though. I am happy that when I saw GD none of this was in play.

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Poster: Andy the Hippie Date: Mar 5, 2013 7:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This is a Grateful Dead show please shut the ---- up!

People should be reverent when the music is gentle....

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 6, 2013 3:55am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This is a Grateful Dead show please shut the ---- up!

Well it 'aint like it's a monastery- just a plea for some consideration. Probably too old school.

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Poster: birdlives Date: Mar 7, 2013 12:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This is a Grateful Dead show please shut the ---- up!

Why are most of us so sheepish about asking for people to
just act "kind"? Society has gone so far toward the inattentive, and the fostering attitude of "f*** you I'll do what I want," we have simply lost the ethos of the GD and ABB have taught us all.

Butch Trucks once said: "our ( along with GD) music is a kind of music to savor (meaning, sit and get with the aesthetic of true improvisation), other bands are bands to party to" (suggesting the crowd Weir encountered).

Every time I hear a person scream to become "a part of" a beautiful moment (Stella Blue, Morning Dew), the net effect is certainly a diminishment, and disrespectful to the composer, musician, and others who are aesthetically corresponding to "the moment." Imagine during the special moments of DS (9-19-70) the Fillmore crowd screamed and ruined the sublime peaks and valleys of that "moment in time."

Everyone: it is not a GD, ABB "thing," it is been a growing
acceptance of Other One's UNCIVILITY. I maintain there are "moments" when an audience should/ought to be "respectful," "mindful"; moreover, unapologetic for
expecting the "moment" to be realized.

This post was modified by birdlives on 2013-03-07 20:01:05

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Poster: ColdRain108 Date: Mar 6, 2013 9:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This is a Grateful Dead show please shut the ---- up!

"I am happy that when I saw GD none of this was in play."

I've thought this many times. We were there with the band, just us and the band, no outside intruders from cyber world - it was a special, personal moment in time just for that crowd. Be here, now!

The folks these days are scared to be alone for even 5 minutes - scared to be labelled anti-social and forced to take meds. Without their "friends" they have nothing, are nothing. They are more concerned with letting everyone know they are there than actually being there and imersing themselves in the moment...its all about the tweet that shows everyone how cool you are for being there, doesn't really matter where "here" is as long as it makes you look cool to be there.

My summer sport while in college (83-88) was to drive back and forth across the country. 3am driving through Wyoming, all alone, just 3 people in a half assed car with no other folks for miles around, it was such a crazy feeling to get out of the car and to be so alone - that experience is no longer available. We needed to be ready to take care of ourselves. I still love that feeling so I go backpacking deep into the wilderness (where cell service ends) to get that feeling. Funny, even there a lot of folks just can't help themselves but to try to camp right on top of you - the feeling of being alone with just you and God is too much for the weak of mind to handle. Me? I live for those moments. My favorite place to go is (not making up the name) Dose Meadow (pronounced Dosee - as in Dosewallips)a nice 20 mile jaunt into the ONP backcountry. No filter between me and the thundering universe. Quite a psychedelic experience! Very much like a GD show.

I choose my cell plan by which one has the least coverage where I escape to reality. ATT it is!

I have 45,000 co-workers, I play music in at least 3 "bands", I travel to India, been married for 23 years(to the same person), have great relations with family, I enjoy a huge crowd - Love NYC. And then the next minute I enjoy being the only person for miles around with no contact to civilization. Balance. I have 6 A$$book friends, never tweeted, don't even get the twitter BS. But strangely my life does not feel empty for it...quite the opposite.

I hated the dweebs who yell during Stella Blue or try to talk over the top of Birdsong, WTF are you doing at a Dead show if you realy just want to hear your own voice blathering on about nothing at all(twitter?)? Just patheticly lame and weak.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Mar 6, 2013 12:12pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This is a Grateful Dead show please shut the ---- up!

Hitting the nail on the head LS. You really make alot
of sense, not little. You might wanna consider changing your name :)
"I have 45,000 co-workers, I play music in at least 3 "bands", I travel to India, been married for 23 years(to the same person), have great relations with family, I enjoy a huge crowd"> that is quite a resume! holy feces batman.

This has been a prob ever since these cell thingys,
and peoples sense of intitlement. I pretty much agree with all that has been stated:
"Be professional" YES. Maybe Bob was having a 'moment'.
~Assholes talking like theres no music playing, and nerfing
phone recorders. This is not new territory.

I cant stand people holding up their phones
and blocking my view. But on the other hand, I am guilty
too. I use a hand held video camera, but use it rarely,
I am polite to people around me,
and I RARELY talk and only clap when is appropriate:
See anything from 'gentle' Andy to 'old school' Sean.
And total AMEN to strats stement.
And where would be if not for some of these people recording
a whole show and then posting it for free?!?
Its a conundrum wrapped in a riddle wrapped in bacon.
MMMMMMMMMMMM...... bacon (Homer).

I think thats what it boils down to. People who are there
for the music and the music only, and then douches and then the inbetween, the perfomers mood, and the self righteous of course:
(witness to a 6 foot broad shoulder guy cutting in front of a 5 foot 2 female yelling back, "its general admission
b!tch". ~ Not a pretty sight.

Im going to a show tonight and I will be using a camera,
only when its appropriate, not messing things up for anyone.
My only hope is that P!nk doesnt has a hissy and is not
a long bearded old guy. And~ I dont expect the people to be
polite.

edit~ see what you started Quasarider? And to think you
just wanted a picture.

This post was modified by craven714 on 2013-03-06 20:12:44

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Mar 6, 2013 12:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This is a Grateful Dead show please shut the ---- up!

I am a fairly high consumer of live music vids. (Aren't most of us here?) Of all that I've watched/posted over the past several years I won't say that I have never thought one shot with a phone was worthy, but it is a case where my fingers and toes to would be sufficient to count the good ones. Video cameras at least give you a shot to recorded something that someone would actually want to watch.

Part of me thinks it's lame of me to link to this, but wth> http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/the-10-most-annoying-concert-behaviors-20130114

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Poster: craven714 Date: Mar 6, 2013 1:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: This is a Grateful Dead show please shut the ---- up!

perfect. that pix says it all. and you cant argue with
ANY of those on the list S.
Agreed that the iphones arent really good. But those
are usually for personal reasons anyway.
But I love the stealthy and tech savvy peeps who help us out.
i.e. ~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTHYvprDuaE